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Cagiva Elefant 650
Cagiva Elefant 650

Cagiva Gran Canyon

The to the Elefant, the Gran Canyon 900 the Ducatidesmodue engine with injection. It is regarded as a more but is still capable on the dirt, probably not in the leagueof the Elefant. cafe motard would be the way to describe it!The frame is partly on the ‘fant.

The Gran name was shortlived — as of the bike has beensuperseded by the Navigator, uses a Suzuki TL-1000 So webid farewell to the days of Cagivas.

Ross Samuelson is one of the Elefant owners I know to buy a Elefant partsare a difficulty in areas since Ducati and have split, so Iasked to check what bits retrofit from the Canyon to the If you’re interested in modifying bike, particularly cams, wheel/tyre combos, Ross has all this.

Thanks for the following,Ross down are some more by new Canyonisti).

Here are my observations on the (or otherwise) on theGran Canyon to so far. I preface all the comment by I no longerhave the E900 to take any measurements off.

1. the rear are the same with the exception of the bolt holes. 10mm with a 17 mm head are used on the bolt with an allen key are used on the GC. The hole in the centreis the as is the bolt spacing

2. OOPs. I forgot, the GC runs a 525 chain not a 530,therefore sprocket is thinner. also means the counter sprocketis not interchangeable.

While it is therefore you run a widerchain (530) on it, is not a recommended practice. you’ll thelinks in the chain very

3. The swingarm seems to be quite along with complete It has quite a lot harder shock than the E900. The sectionshape of the arm extrusion seems a little but same dimensions,same ends, axle etc.

4. the chain under the swing arm is the same, but isno top chain roller.

5. The rear sub frame, battery, mount etc is totallydifferent. Although it it may bolt onto the frame at the spots.

6.The frame seems the same. There is far strengtheningaround the head stock. I some of the little hang off bracketswould be different.

7. The airbox is in its bottom section due to the injection,but the lid is the Air cleaners are interchangeable as are the snorkels,although the are a lot longer in the GC with none of the attached as per e900.

8. The brake are different and would nt interchange changed the whole system. are Nissin as distinct from

9. Forks are totally different but wheel seems to be the same.Larger discs and the speedo drive is on the side to E900’s.Looks very to E750, I think it is the same. wheel is now 4.25wide.

10. Switch looks the same, possibly Ignitioncoils look different/bigger maybe these could be the to weak coilson the e900’s?

what Michael Sizemore had to say on the Monster list after to the Canyon camp:

Date: 23 Nov 1999 22:49:50 -0600

I traded in my ’97 900M on a new Gran Canyon, so I thoughtI pass this comparison on for anyone interested. Let meexplain I live in flatland, USA, it’s 400 miles of superslaban any to hills or curving roads, so my was to findsomething more comfortable and of motorcycle camping as well riding.

The Cagiva is definitely more with its wider and deeperseat suited to my larger … The suspension has a lotmore travel and rougher pavement like the stuff wehave around better. Although it has the same as the Monster,it’s quieter and more feeling than my Monster its 2 into1 loud exhaust

The side stand doesn’t on its whimand the rear brake squeal. I like the 916-style headlightsand under seat system. For a lower purchase than aMonster it has some such as tach, clock, injection, stainlesssteel brake adjustable brake and clutch and tool kit thatshould have standard on the Monster.

It also has a luggageoption, but this is not yet available my dealer.

As you might expect, it smoothly, and the fuel injection better midrange makes for usable power. It has more top, so it wants to lean at very slow speeds and not turnin as quickly at speed. its dual sport tires it doesn’thave the ultimate grip of the rubber of the Monster, but this probably never test the of even those.

There is during braking while the compresses that I am not usedto the Monster. The seat height is too high for thisshort-legged guy, but I am that it will settle or I will beable to adjust it a bit. Very unnerving to around ingravel.

The first tank of gas went 40 miles per gallon which is the Ducati ever got; I was doing gentle low rev break After the next tank that got about 75 miles per figured out that the durn and trip meter are graduated in I verified against interstate markers. I guess the breakin take longer than I

Anyone have any ideas on to make it tally miles of kilometers?

Things I have that I don’t like are the wheels, the goofymud fender on the wheel, the dual gas tank and the fact thatit doesn’t a centerstand. There isn’t any stufffor it yet, and it will be such a low volume thing theremay never be much Ducati engine stuff will also work in it. My tank bag won’t work on the gas tank.

Mike Sizemore


Good to have a perspective on the bike too. had this to say:

I’m the owner of a red 1999 Gran 900, picked up inDecember The bike has one previous owner, and had Kmson the clock. It’s with Pirelli MT80 and Fiamm horns. Theother on it are a trip computer (push type) and a topbox.

I’ve added an Optimate charger and a BMW type ‘cigarlighter’ socket the seat to power my mobile UHF radio andheated jacket. My traded the bike for my 20,000 ZZR600and a high mileage Yam so I didn’t pay any cash for the exchange. I was at the new Transalp, or another TDM 850 — two. The new Transalp was too expensive for a 650, and I likeabout 70-80 HP on a bike.

I would have gladly a newElefant if there had been one The Cagiva will be used for France and Italy this

I understand the Canyons are built at in Italy in the samebuilding as the current A Ducati in all but label?

When I rode the Canyon I expected wind blast, andgot it, the has a teeny fly screen which only to attractflys. I had a spare windshield from my other — a 1200Bandit, and this like it would fit. I four holes in theCagiva fly and bolted on the Bandit screen to the nylon number plate

Cagiva Elefant 650
Cagiva Elefant 650

Voila! Wind blast is reduced, and ridingthe bike in a last week I could see the road ahead. Thereis some blast on my shoulders but the new is a big improvement.The screen is a Bandit ‘tall’ flip replacement by MPin the UK and looks like a part when fitted to the hacksaw is needed to trim off a of cms each side of the screen,but a moments work once the is on the bike. (MP +44 990703030) MP also Ermax +10cm screens for 750 900

The engine is, as far as I can tell an two valve per pot from the current 900 Monster, the swing-arm looks very are Nissin, not Brembos, and the bike has a 19 wheel,rather than the 21 on the Elefant(?). has two fuel tanks of 10litres linked by a balance pipe, so you get two caps to fightwith at petrol I suspect the bike is de-geared/de-tuned for the Canyon, but it hits 150 KM/ph with plenty in hand.

Thebash plate is made of ABS and the injection pump or something is it, directly at the front of the bike. So a rock means nofuel Hmmm.

What else? The is one of the newer gel types mountedflat the seat. Getting at it involves too manyscrews, hence the BMW socket and lead so I can plug in a chargeranytime.

I run the on Silkolene 10/40 synthetic. exhausts are Lafranconiand are quiet. I a loud can on the Bandit, and it’s a to getoff it. The quiet cans stay on the Canyon.

The Canyon’s is terrific, as you’d expect, and the makes for some chucking in the twisties. Ride quality but nicely damped. I’ve the rear suspension on stock -the front is not adjustable.

travel is quoted as 6.7. I Pirelli MT80’s, my previous bikes have had Michelinson, but did not like the road in the wet.

are the heavy clutch, and lack of for the bike,Non-Fango make a set, but my Givi and Baglux bits are no … lights on the dash are in sunlight. The clutch soundslike two fighting in a bucket of rusty There’s characterfor you.

The stand is mounted just a bit too far for me to getmy toe on it to put it down. Otherwise, the is fine.

There are little all over the bike, on the ends of the I haven’t counted them

Adjusting the chain tension week I noticed a bit of corrosioninside the arm on the adjuster tensioner bolts. My ZZR snappedoff a seized tensioner after a couple of salty so I intendto pull the bolts out and them. I sprayed inside the withWD40 as a temporary measure.

The bike came with a from theprevious owner, I like. Cruising round the last year onmy equipped Bandit I got grumbles following riders aboutoil from the chain-oiler greasing visors. They shouldn’t at the back!

Warren mentions guides on the Elefant, onthe GC are nylon guides/skids.

The Gran has been superseded this (2000) by the CagivaNavigator, powered by a TL1000 twin. Both the and Navigator,are I think more than dual-sport. I don’t how many weremade, my bike has number 709, registered in the UK in

The Gran Canyon was voted of the Year’ or some such by UK in 1998. Despite that, a great bike, full of includingthe small oil leak the crankcases. But it’s Italian.

did I expect?

My other, other, is a 1976 Morini 3 1/2, red ItalianV-twin with Lafranconi

Best wishes

Sue (south UK)

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Cagiva Elefant 650
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